Hello Kemp, good job on the app. Do you have a github page with the source of the app itself? I would like to have a look at it :) I understand if you want to keep things closed though. Great adaption.
Hi, thanks for playing! I don't have a publicly accessible copy of the source unfortunately and I don't really have plans to do so. The game does support custom modules to add new cards etc though if that's of interest. I need to write up some documentation on how people can create those.
I'm running Windows 7 and for some reason, both the v1.4 and v2.3 are not able to run now - which is weird because several days before all of this started happening, I was able to run them - (see previous post).
And now even when I try to run them, my anti-virus program on my computer keeps telling me that there is a virus in the programs and keeps deleting them from my computer.
That's annoying. Which antivirus are you using? I know there have been occasional issues due to the executable being self-extracting, but generally it's ok. As the current build is now quite old I'll see about creating a new one either later today or tomorrow and see if that solves it.
I have no idea when it comes to anti-virus programs, just use whatever is on the computer.
My wife got it for her laptop from BestBuy - a year or so ago - and since we had five available, I put it on my computer - now it almost sounds more annoying than helpful.
Since the last post, I tried downloading several times - tried shutting off Webroot and downloading several times - tried downloading several times to my Desolate folder, as moving from my Downloads folder to my Desolate folder my computer said something about me not having Admin privileges.
For some reason, your new versions - 1.4 & 2.3 - now are being flagged as with a virus and my antivirus program - Webroot - keeps deleting them after I download them.
Hopefully I can figure something out later as I had fun playing those text games.
Apologies for not getting back to you sooner, I've been busier than I thought. I'll look at getting a new build for you to try by the end of the week. Hopefully things will be different in some magical way that stops annoying your antivirus 😅
I've uploaded a new build that I've called 2.3.5. It's just 2.3 but built using the latest versions of my tools. Hopefully that will work better for you.
Thank you for your time and creativity on the Desolate text games.
I had Desolate v1.3 on my PC and for some reason my PC thought it was bad and put up an error on it when I tried to run it.
I deleted it and went to redownload it, but found out that Desolate v1.3 no longer exists and instead there is a Desolate v1.4 - but v1.4 has one of the Dark Matter expansions in it.
Can you please repost the Desolate v1.3 on here for those of us that only want to play the core without any expansions?
Or could you make a new version with the ability at the start of the game to type in which expansion(s) you would like to add to the game?
Great news: this option already exists :) If you check out the v1.4 release post here it says how to do that. Thanks for the reminder that the information should be more obvious and not buried in a post though!
Edit: It may be worth checking out v2.3, for the bug fixes if nothing else. Most are mainly relevant to the expansions, but there's a few for the core game iirc.
Fun game; I've been playing version 2.2 on windows, and run into a consistent error and have a few suggestions:
Error - the game crashes when the player has a piece of equipment that would be useable in combat specifically. The error message is several lines of text:
Conflict card drawn. Alien health: 5 + 3 = 8
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "desolate.py", line 752, in <module>
File "desolate.py", line 431, in run
File "desolate.py", line 695, in play_level
File "desolate.py", line 504, in perform_turn
File "desolate.py", line 391, in _process_event
File "player.py", line 170, in get_available_equipment
File "equipment_base.py", line 176, in get_option
NotImplementedError
[10700] Failed to execute script desolate
Suggestion 1 - at game end, the game indicates to press q to quit. It would be nice if there was an option to play again or press q to quit, or if the game just ended.
Suggestion 2 - it would be great if the game asked if one wanted to play with zero, one, or two expansions. It says both modules are loaded, but I do not know how to unload or not load them, and it would be great to play without the modules.
Suggestion 3 - Corporal Taylor's description is missing a space between the words "first" and "voyage."
Thanks for the quick reply, Kemp. I will give that a try, but it would be nice if there was an option in game to select modules (and to select to play again, instead of an ending "option" that is a forced action but not really an option at all). Those two changes would make it a lot more user friendly.
One other suggestion: for game play strategic purposes, it would be interesting if the card that was redeemed for a crate was announced: advanced players are paying attention to every card that gets played in any way, because it impacts probability calculations throughout the rest of the game. If one of the Engineering cards just got discarded as a crate redemption, that changes the way you use ammo for the rest of the game, for example!
And I tried to create a .txt file with the text being
[game]
modules=core
saved as the file name desolate.conf (and I also tried desolate.cnf) saved in the same directory, but neither of those worked. This is where an in-game module selection would be handy.
Also, I believe the SSRI card is not working: if you have that item, and type :u or otherwise look for a way to remove an affliction, it never gives you the option to use an SSRI.
Thanks again for all the feedback, all of it is going on the list. I'll look into the bugs first but the other suggestions won't get lost :)
That's weird about the config file not working, as I routinely use those for testing various things. Either way, expect a bug fix update in the next few days.
Thanks, Kemp. And it looks like the SSRI can work if a player has it at the start of the game, but one use items (like the SSRI, Mega Oxygen, and presumably others) DO NOT work if they are found during the course of the game: if found, they do not register as an option to be used upon entry of the :u command.
Neat! Works as expected, and I enjoyed the fact that it plays in terminal! I wasn't sure if you can shoot more than the amount of dice provided (4), but that's a game design decision I suppose!
You should be able to shoot with as many dice as you have ammo for, so if you have 7 ammo then you could roll all 7 dice at once. That would be a bit wasteful though ;) The plasma mine does have a limit of 4 dice if that's what you were referring to?
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Hello Kemp, good job on the app. Do you have a github page with the source of the app itself? I would like to have a look at it :) I understand if you want to keep things closed though. Great adaption.
Hi, thanks for playing! I don't have a publicly accessible copy of the source unfortunately and I don't really have plans to do so. The game does support custom modules to add new cards etc though if that's of interest. I need to write up some documentation on how people can create those.
Thanks for the reply. If you put a public API to create new content, I would be interested to look at it. Keep up the good work.
What do you use to format the printing on screen? It is just print() ?
Hello Kemp-
I'm running Windows 7 and for some reason, both the v1.4 and v2.3 are not able to run now - which is weird because several days before all of this started happening, I was able to run them - (see previous post).
And now even when I try to run them, my anti-virus program on my computer keeps telling me that there is a virus in the programs and keeps deleting them from my computer.
Will keep working on it to see what is going on.
Just thought you would like to know just in case.
Cheers
That's annoying. Which antivirus are you using? I know there have been occasional issues due to the executable being self-extracting, but generally it's ok. As the current build is now quite old I'll see about creating a new one either later today or tomorrow and see if that solves it.
Hello Kemp-
Appreciate your response and looking into.
I'm using Webroot.
I have no idea when it comes to anti-virus programs, just use whatever is on the computer.
My wife got it for her laptop from BestBuy - a year or so ago - and since we had five available, I put it on my computer - now it almost sounds more annoying than helpful.
Since the last post, I tried downloading several times - tried shutting off Webroot and downloading several times - tried downloading several times to my Desolate folder, as moving from my Downloads folder to my Desolate folder my computer said something about me not having Admin privileges.
Will keep looking into it.
Thanks for your help.
Cheers
Hello Kemp-
Yeah, no idea what's going on.
For some reason, your new versions - 1.4 & 2.3 - now are being flagged as with a virus and my antivirus program - Webroot - keeps deleting them after I download them.
Hopefully I can figure something out later as I had fun playing those text games.
Cheers
Apologies for not getting back to you sooner, I've been busier than I thought. I'll look at getting a new build for you to try by the end of the week. Hopefully things will be different in some magical way that stops annoying your antivirus 😅
Hello Kemp-
I appreciate your quick responses and understand if you are busy.
I also appreciate the new build.
Look forward to seeing the new result.
Talk with you soon.
Cheers
I've uploaded a new build that I've called 2.3.5. It's just 2.3 but built using the latest versions of my tools. Hopefully that will work better for you.
Hello Kemp-
Thank you for your time and creativity on the Desolate text games.
I had Desolate v1.3 on my PC and for some reason my PC thought it was bad and put up an error on it when I tried to run it.
I deleted it and went to redownload it, but found out that Desolate v1.3 no longer exists and instead there is a Desolate v1.4 - but v1.4 has one of the Dark Matter expansions in it.
Can you please repost the Desolate v1.3 on here for those of us that only want to play the core without any expansions?
Or could you make a new version with the ability at the start of the game to type in which expansion(s) you would like to add to the game?
Thank you for your time.
Cheers
Great news: this option already exists :) If you check out the v1.4 release post here it says how to do that. Thanks for the reminder that the information should be more obvious and not buried in a post though!
Edit: It may be worth checking out v2.3, for the bug fixes if nothing else. Most are mainly relevant to the expansions, but there's a few for the core game iirc.
Fun game; I've been playing version 2.2 on windows, and run into a consistent error and have a few suggestions:
Error - the game crashes when the player has a piece of equipment that would be useable in combat specifically. The error message is several lines of text:
Conflict card drawn. Alien health: 5 + 3 = 8
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "desolate.py", line 752, in <module>
File "desolate.py", line 431, in run
File "desolate.py", line 695, in play_level
File "desolate.py", line 504, in perform_turn
File "desolate.py", line 391, in _process_event
File "player.py", line 170, in get_available_equipment
File "equipment_base.py", line 176, in get_option
NotImplementedError
[10700] Failed to execute script desolate
Suggestion 1 - at game end, the game indicates to press q to quit. It would be nice if there was an option to play again or press q to quit, or if the game just ended.
Suggestion 2 - it would be great if the game asked if one wanted to play with zero, one, or two expansions. It says both modules are loaded, but I do not know how to unload or not load them, and it would be great to play without the modules.
Suggestion 3 - Corporal Taylor's description is missing a space between the words "first" and "voyage."
Thanks for the feedback! I'll take a look at the error and the typo. In terms of loading specific expansions it's briefly explained in this post: https://kemp.itch.io/desolate-text/devlog/276955/desolate-v20-released-with-dark...
I'm intending to write a more detailed post about the options available in the config file in the not-too-distant future.
Thanks for the quick reply, Kemp. I will give that a try, but it would be nice if there was an option in game to select modules (and to select to play again, instead of an ending "option" that is a forced action but not really an option at all). Those two changes would make it a lot more user friendly.
One other suggestion: for game play strategic purposes, it would be interesting if the card that was redeemed for a crate was announced: advanced players are paying attention to every card that gets played in any way, because it impacts probability calculations throughout the rest of the game. If one of the Engineering cards just got discarded as a crate redemption, that changes the way you use ammo for the rest of the game, for example!
And I tried to create a .txt file with the text being
saved as the file name desolate.conf (and I also tried desolate.cnf) saved in the same directory, but neither of those worked. This is where an in-game module selection would be handy.
Also, I believe the SSRI card is not working: if you have that item, and type :u or otherwise look for a way to remove an affliction, it never gives you the option to use an SSRI.
Thanks again for all the feedback, all of it is going on the list. I'll look into the bugs first but the other suggestions won't get lost :)
That's weird about the config file not working, as I routinely use those for testing various things. Either way, expect a bug fix update in the next few days.
Thanks, Kemp. And it looks like the SSRI can work if a player has it at the start of the game, but one use items (like the SSRI, Mega Oxygen, and presumably others) DO NOT work if they are found during the course of the game: if found, they do not register as an option to be used upon entry of the :u command.
Neat! Works as expected, and I enjoyed the fact that it plays in terminal! I wasn't sure if you can shoot more than the amount of dice provided (4), but that's a game design decision I suppose!
Thanks for playing and leaving a comment!
You should be able to shoot with as many dice as you have ammo for, so if you have 7 ammo then you could roll all 7 dice at once. That would be a bit wasteful though ;) The plasma mine does have a limit of 4 dice if that's what you were referring to?
it's not obvious in the rules if you can assign more than 4 dice, but as you said that's probably rarely a good move anyway.